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This makes a ton of sense guys. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work!
I’m curious to find out more…
The only one thing I wanted to say is: ‘Thanks’
That says it all.
You help us – you’re making the world better, happier.
We share our happiness with others – we’re making the world better, happier by fixing our my inner game.
And by saying that I mean the changes we are making to the world would grow in an exponential factor if many people learned this, learned the true essence of everyone and every single one.
I like the way your ‘lessons’ are not based on Outer game or inner game itself, but on Life and Happiness in general. It has a very wider range.
Making it for free shows you’re mature enough to share something that truly helps many, many people. As you said, it’s good the pleasure you get from distributing this knowledge and beating inner game. And I’m glad you get this pleasure. One day you may get direct benefit from doing this you are doing now. And the pleasure will be even bigger.
Felipe
Hey Guys!
I just wanted to say THANK YOU!
I’m from EUROPE so please forgive
me for my bad english! :)
Since i’ve started with PickUp my
personality with walls after walls
of lies!
I recognised a feeling of emptiness
behind my breast! No feelings and either
no emotions! Big inner game break.
I felt dead! I WAS dead!
Chating with people i don’t really like
was the daily torture of my live!
BUT NOW i throw away this lies of
complete shit!
I feel the confidence i’ve never
recognised! I FEEL real EMOTIONS!
I feel the LIVE behind my breast!
No inner game break!
WOW! It feels great! I’m ALIVE!
Great thanks to you all!
I’ll continue a real live!
No more lies again! No waste
of time with people i don’t like!
THX!
pi
I am so glad that someone took the time, and gave the effort to think about the essence of the problem and not about the ‘band-aids’.
Please keep it up. Its appreciated alot.
File
nice video. :D
i can see a little bit clearer now……
what if i just want to flirt and do some hanky panky only…lol.. i know it’s not a good thing i guess//but thats what i feel right now … and do u think that ur technique will work for hanky-panky also ??
anyway….
this video rocks no matter what. :D
nice Ideology. i think i need to start looking at things this way … grateful for this video…. hopefully i won’t forget this inner game.
thnak guys. :D
I’ve enjoyed watching the videos , but do have a comment which I’d like to get your thoughts on. The “Naturals” that I know had success with girls in their early teens. Dare I say that many guys who have found the seduction community had negative experiences early and as such have emotions like fear and anxiety and even anger around women. I don’t see how having a happy life fixes this ? For example, lets say as a child you get bitten by a dog , or a spider etc , no matter how happy you get you’ll have some issues around dogs or spiders. And we all know guys who have great lives but are pathetic around women, and guys who have pathetic lives but are great around women. Thoughts ?
Hi Mitch,
Thanks for the feedback. It’s something that I know a lot of guys are interested in hearing so it’s great you shared it. I’ll break it up so it’s easier to get through.
“The “Naturals” that I know had success with girls in their early teens.”
I didn’t have success with girls in my early teens. In fact, most of my early teens was spent watching the women I desired walk, hand in hand, with my mates, into bedrooms whilst I was left outside, clearing up the mess from the party. I didn’t lose my virginity till I was 21 (which was also the first girl I’d kissed in 7 years) yet I get more attention from women than just about any other guy I know. So whilst it’s common for naturals to have success early, it’s not necessary.
“Dare I say that many guys who have found the seduction community had negative experiences early and as such have emotions like fear and anxiety and even anger around women. I don’t see how having a happy life fixes this ? For example, lets say as a child you get bitten by a dog , or a spider etc , no matter how happy you get you’ll have some issues around dogs or spiders.”
I had many negative experiences with women when I was growing up and I experienced a lot of pain around them too so I know what you mean about that. The point that’s missing here is that there are a couple of realisations that are part of this journey to creating the kind of life you desire with one of the big ones being – who’s responsible for how you feel. And not just on an intellectual level, on an experiential level.
I don’t normally lay it out this blunt but seeing as we don’t have time to go through a full coaching session, I’m just going to put it out there. Women don’t cause you suffering in your life. You do. All the pain you have experienced, are experiencing, and will experience, is simply a product of how you engage the world – your underlying motivations. When you really get this on an experiential level, you’ll realise that all the pain you’ve attributed to women in your past was actually a product of you being needy and clingy and making women responsible for your happiness. Even further than that, it was actually you that was hurting them, not the other way around.
This might not make sense if you haven’t been through inner game coaching but I lay out all the specifics in the new book so you should check it out.
“And we all know guys who have great lives but are pathetic around women, and guys who have pathetic lives but are great around women. Thoughts ?”
Yeah, I’ve heard this more than once around the community. The first thing to keep in mind here is that just because a guy is doing amazing things, doesn’t mean he has his shit together. And just because a guy is doing things that seem useless, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have his shit together.
A guy can seem like he’s got his shit together on the outside but is really only acting to impress those around him. And a guy can seem like he’s living an average life yet is doing these things as a pure form of expression. But in saying that, I have met a guy or two who is living from expression and still not getting all the success with women he wants.
In my experience, guys who really have their shit together rarely need help with women (just have a look around the community. The proportion of guys with their life together and guys who don’t is completely lopsided).
The ones I’ve met who do have their shit together and do need help all have the same issue – unproductive ideas about women.
Whilst they run the rest of their life doing what they need to do and living their life by what they deem to be right, somewhere along the way they’ve acquired a set of ideas relating to women that are holding them back. A 10 minute conversation is usually all that’s required to straighten them out and then I usually never see them again.
And there are guys who are living from impression who get success. I’ve seen it many times before. But the one thing to really look at is what kind of women are they ending up with.
Think about it, if you’re just living your life with a shiny exterior but are hollow and empty on the inside, what kind of women are you going to attract?
If you’re just superficially attractive but internally dead, what kinds of standards will the women you attract have?
And what kinds of relationships are you going to have?
You’re going to attract superficial women, to have superficial conversations with about superficial things and forge superficial relationships. Is that the kind of life you want?
Of course, this is all purely theoretical. If you have a specific example you’d like to talk about then feel free to share the specifics and I’ll go through it with you.
I hope that answers your questions.
LoGun
Oh… wow.
Dear Logun, first of all, sorry about some grammar mistakes I can do, because English is my foreign language!
I think you’re a very good person buddy! You’re a genious!
Definetely “Seduction Community Sucks”, “Inner Game Challenge” and your videos from the seminar in Sidney are the best material any men can read or watch about inner game and seduction!
Even if he’s a PUA or not!
All of this stuff can change (and will, I hope) lives around the world and it’s all free! Incredible!
All of us know that we can trust you because you’re simply not trying to sale fake inner game products, materials, or books, DVDs…
I confess that I was a follower of indirect methods and didn’t have great results because my inner game was terrible and I had lots of AA.
Your book opened my eyes and this Inner Game Challenge is elevating my inner game to the sky!
Thank you very much! I really appreciate what you’re doing!
André
Man, I’ve gotta tell you, this Inner Game stuff really changed the way I see things now.
When reading the ”Seduction Community Sucks”, I remembered everything I’ve been trough since I discovery this world.
I went to a party last weekend, and decided just do what I wanted to do, and get one girl I was attracted to without thinking of lines and all these stuff, and guess what?
I got her, but, this weekend I went to a bar with my friend and his girl friends, and I started to think in what to say to get my value high, avoid rejection, and what happened? Well, I didn’t enjoy the moment, I was really anxious in the enviroment trying to look cool, not showing low value and these stuff.
After reading the e-book, I remembered every single moment that I really was being myself without worrying about the things, and just trying to have a good time with people around me, and that is how I want be after this inner game challenge, a person that enjoy making people have fun with, a person that laughs even when things seems not so good, a person who helps others when they’re not ok, a person who likes to share good moments with a special girl I might find in my life.
And I know I’m going to be able to let my personality comes out.
Thank you for sharing this with me.
And thank you, its funny to see what was happening to me and why that system of seduction was not working.
lying. that was all. to they and to me. Inner game is the way to go.
Hi LoGun,
I’d like to thank you for these materials that you gave,
I love this “true” approach of the game,
Have a nice day,
Wow, the inner game stuff is video GOLD.
Guys, keep it coming please. This makes sense!
This website will go down in history as one of the most impressive answers to human suffering.
Amazing video – thanks for putting into specifics some vague ideas I’ve been chasing around in my head for years. I’ve been struggling with the paradox of “just being yourself” vs. “changing to be attractive to women”.
It is so confusing because when I started I certainly wasn’t attractive to women, so I assumed that who I was wasn’t good enough. But the truth is that I was so full of self-doubt that I never actually gave myself a chance! As you said, there’s nothing wrong with change, just change to be a better person rather than changing to please others. You summed it up so nicely with: “it’s the difference between trying to ‘do attractive’ and ‘being attractive’”. Thanks for the enlightening video.
-Kevin
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. It just takes the right explanation to get a solid point across. This isn’t just some solid tip, This IS IT. Period.
this video inspires and blows me away every time I watched it
This video does make some sense but a lot of times I simply act myself and express myself the way I am, and I still end up in the friend zone, any thoughts?
Would you say you genuinely express what you desire and live your life on those terms of is ‘expressing what you feel’ a trick you try and use when you’re out of ideas and that’s all that’s left?
I’m asking because it’s quite common for guys to hold back how they feel and what they desire and then finally crack and let it out, only to be shut down with ‘I just don’t think of you in that way…’ In my expereince, this happens because guys don’t make it clear from the start that they’re attracted to women, and they don’t live their life in a way that women want to be a part of it, so when they finally ‘come clean’, she’s not interested.
L.
Hey Leigh!
Once again I can’t re-iterate how great your stuff is. My question is this. How do certain skills (like flirting) come into play when a guy like me has such a hard time doing it? Where does that ability and energy come from.
Eric
i understand the point and why anxiety and fears come from.. but i think it stills very shallow the fact that: how do you become who you wanna be? if the only thing that we need to be is oursefs, happy people, how is that possible that you just erase your fears and wake up ” free” the next morning?
Definitely not my friend. There’s deep underlying mechanisms that you’re currently using to create the pain and frustration you’re experiencing.
If you don’t find those, understand them, and learn how to use them to expereince what you want then freedom will just be a theoretical idea rather than an achievable goal.
Have you heard of Endgame? It’s where I show you what’s really going on underneath and what you can do to transform them so that freedom becomes your natural state.
You can check it out here.
The vision from the attraction university is brilliant. I have approached women in the past using routines, tricks and games but these don’t feel authentic.
I have only just thrown all that of the table and am approaching women from a more ‘finding out who she is’ perspective. However, I am not able to completely chill out and express my true self to them.
Why? What’s stopping this?
I understand that the concept of approach anxiety is bullshit. It makes sense that it’s something invented by men. I still feel though, that I need to prove/qualify myself to a woman when I initiate contact with her, and also with new guys.
What can I do to change my perspective? I know it logically, but in the moment everything changes from logic to emotion.
Hey mate,
Great to hear you’ve decided to drop the bullshit and get real with women. Speaking from personal experience, this is the most powerful and exciting journey you can go on with women.
Changing your perspective requires a few subtle changes in focus, perspective and action. I’m writing an article about it now. I’ll make sure I flick it to you when it’s done.
L.
Hey guys,
Just writing to say that I am very glad to see somebody who is actually genuine and about helping people and not about taking the ego trip of being a guru.
I also like that you can explain things in a simple manner.
I myself am into teaching this stuff, and I have to admit that you outdo me and that I am glad to see that are real.
Keep up the good work, and thank you.
Marcus
Great to hear you get our stuff. It’s not for everyone but those who do get it, will see just how simple it is to get to the core.
I’ve never wanted to be a guru and I don’t see myself as one. I’m just a guy who worked out what was in his way and now I’m sharing it with other guys around me. I don’t always get it right and I’vev changed the way I see things many times in the last 5 years but I’m always working to get it right.
Wicked to hear you’re teaching this stuff as well. If you need a hand with anything, just let me know and I’ll see if I can help out.
Leigh
I love the sound of the way you talk about attraction guys. It seems to make a lot of sense to me and I look forward to connecting with you further.
Cheers
Wicked mate. Glad to hear it. Check out the rest of the blog if you’re looking for more ideas or information.
Leigh
Thanks Leigh,
I just sent an email to you guys.
I would like to organise some phone coaching if possible asap. Can you send me some information.
Cheers
Great mate.
I got your email and have replied but I haven’t seen anything back from you yet. Have fun with Endgame for now and just get back to me when you’re ready.
Leigh