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		<title>The ONLY Reason You Would Learn Pickup.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LoGun</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I'm going to shoot straight from the hip here.

You may not like what I have to say, in fact, it may even offend you, but in my experience in nearly 4 years (3 and a half of those as a coach) in the community, this is what I've seen through every single guy.

Every single one.

There's only one reason you NEED to learn pick up, and that's:

Because you're trying to trick her into liking you.]]></description>
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<p>You may not like what I have to say, in fact, it may even offend you, but in my experience in nearly 4 years (3 and a half of those as a coach) in the community, this is what I&#8217;ve seen through every single guy.</p>
<p>Every single one.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s only one reason you NEED to learn pick up, and that&#8217;s:</p>
<p>Because you&#8217;re trying to trick her into liking you.</p>
<p>Yes, I used the work &#8216;trick&#8217;. My other favourite words are &#8216;manipulate&#8217; or &#8216;deceive&#8217;.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re learning pickup because there&#8217;s parts of you that you want to hide and parts of you that you want to accentuate.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re giving her an incomplete picture specifically to make her like you more than she normally would if she got to know the real you.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re withholding the truth, you&#8217;re telling her a story, you&#8217;re hiding who you really are so that she&#8217;ll want to be with you.</p>
<p><strong>Why are you doing this? </strong></p>
<p>Because you&#8217;re trying to make her responsible for you happiness. You perceive that she has something that you need in order to get what you want out of life.</p>
<p>This runs deeper than just &#8216;getting&#8217; things from women. This runs through your entire life and is at the core of all your issues. This is the reason you need to learn pickup.</p>
<p>The only reason you&#8217;re stuck in your head is because you&#8217;re trying to hide parts of who you are and accentuate others so that she&#8217;ll be attracted to you.</p>
<p>The only reason you run out of things to talk about is because you&#8217;re trying to come up with things to talk about that you think she wants to listen to.</p>
<p>The only reason you don&#8217;t naturally qualify is because you&#8217;re so focussed on trying to meet her standards that whether or not she meets yours doesn&#8217;t even make it into your mind.</p>
<p>The only reason you need to learn to lead is because you&#8217;re trying to make her get her into your life and you&#8217;re afraid that if you do lead, she wont follow.</p>
<p>The only reason you need to learn to escalate is because you&#8217;re trying to get her into your life and you&#8217;re afraid that if you do escalate, she might reject you.</p>
<p>The only reason you need to DHV is because you&#8217;re trying to impress her with specific things in your life.</p>
<p>If you weren&#8217;t relying on her to get what you want out of life then you wouldn&#8217;t need to learn pickup. Ever.</p>
<p>If you change who you&#8217;re making responsible for the fulfilment and satisfaction that you get out of life then things would be very different.</p>
<p>The primary thing that would change is that instead of sitting around on computers trying to memorise the next seduction secret, or out &#8216;in field&#8217; trying to internalise these complex structures through practise set after practise set, you&#8217;d be out living your life for yourself.</p>
<p><strong>You&#8217;d be doing activities that were intrinsically fulfilling and rewarding.</strong></p>
<p>You be taking responsibility for you happiness, you sense of fulfilment, your excitement, passion, and energy. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d be creating a life that excites you when you wake up and leaves you feeling rewarded and fulfilled when you go to sleep. The fact that your life is full, exciting, rewarding, and incredible without her, changes everything.</p>
<p>Instead of walking up to women and trying to make them responsible for the happiness and fulfilment you&#8217;re looking for in your life..</p>
<p>..you&#8217;d be walking up to them trying to work out if they were the kind of person you want to bring into your happy and fulfilling life.</p>
<p>Instead of being stuck in your head trying to come up with ways to make her attracted to you, you&#8217;d freely express who you are, openly and unashamedly and see if she was the kind of person you click with.</p>
<p>Instead of being racked with anxiety trying to because you&#8217;re terrified that she&#8217;s going to reject you, you&#8217;d be excited for the possibility of finding someone who you really like.</p>
<p>Instead of running out of things to talk about because you&#8217;re just focussed on saying things that you think she wants to hear, you&#8217;d talk passionately and openly about all the incredible things that you love doing because they&#8217;re what you love.</p>
<p>Instead of having to try and &#8216;internalise&#8217; qualification, you&#8217;d be living a powerful, passionate and free life and you&#8217;d naturally have standards about who you brought into it.</p>
<p>Instead of having to learn how to lead to try and show her that you know what you want in life and are willing to go after it, you&#8217;d naturally do it because that&#8217;s the way you life your life.</p>
<p>Instead of having to spend months and months learning how to try and &#8216;do attraction&#8217;, you&#8217;d just naturally be attractive.</p>
<p>By changing the underlying motivation that you live your life by, you&#8217;d never have to try and internalise these complex structures and techniques.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d never HAVE to learn pickup to have success with women. You could be real, open, genuine and authentic with women and have women be very attracted to you.</p>
<p>You could become the kind of guy that all these seduction methods were based off.</p>
<p>Am I saying that there&#8217;d be nothing you could do to change your interactions with women?</p>
<p><strong>Of course not.</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s still plenty of fun little things you can do to give her more excitement, passion, and energy.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that instead of having to learn all of these different things to take your success from very poor to good, you&#8217;d be able to take your success from good to incredible.</p>
<p>And in no way am I claiming that changing the underlying motivation is going to make you amazing with women. It simply removes the necessity to learn the game stuff because you do it naturally.</p>
<p>Doing this wont make you AMAZING with women, just like memorising and &#8216;internalising&#8217; all these game concepts wont make you AMAZING with women.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a deeper element that has to change before you&#8217;re going to see the results that you want to. I&#8217;ll talk about that when I get a chance to write another post.</p>
<p>If you want be able to let go of all the learning, practising and internalising and start having real and genuine connections with real and genuine women, then this is what you need to change.</p>
<p>How do you change it? Well, that&#8217;s another story all together but just consider this for now.</p>
<p>LoGun</p>
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		<title>Why Learning To Pick Up Women Is A Waste Of Time.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LoGun</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Opening lines, conversation topics, body language secrets..

Confidence techniques, all these tricks to pick up women...

Whilst they all seem like they're the answer you're looking for, what I'm about to show you is that they're not only not going to get you the results you want..

..but they're actually making you worse with women.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.attractioninstitute.org/inner-game/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/fail-with-women-300x200.jpg" alt="picking-up-women" title="picking-up-women" width="300" height="200" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4031" />Opening lines, conversation topics, body language secrets..</p>
<p>Confidence techniques, all these tricks to pick up women&#8230;</p>
<p>Whilst they all seem like they&#8217;re the answer you&#8217;re looking for, what I&#8217;m about to show you is that they&#8217;re not only not going to get you the results you want..</p>
<p><strong>..but they&#8217;re actually making you worse with women.</strong></p>
<p>Why? Well, have a a look a this set of rules I pulled from a PUA forum.</p>
<p>- &#8220;You can&#8217;t show too much interest so your opening line should be indirect&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;Women love celebrity gossip so you need to read up on that to have things to talk about&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;Don&#8217;t ever lean in when you talk. It telegraphs too much interest.&#8221;</p>
<p>- &#8220;You need to develop a solid routine stack so that if she&#8217;s not interested in what you have to say, you can transition to another routine.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>What do they all have in common?</strong></p>
<p>Can&#8217;t tell? Have a look closer.</p>
<p>Your opener should (apparently) be indirect because if you show too much interest when she&#8217;s not attracted to you at all, she&#8217;s not going to listen to what you have to say.</p>
<p>But why are you showing interest before you&#8217;ve even spoken her?</p>
<p>How do you know she&#8217;s the kind of woman you like? If you had deep and real standards in your life rather than just being attracted to the superficial aspects of a person, would you need to learn this?</p>
<p>And even if you did have standards and you got the vibe from her that she was the kind of woman you want to pick up, if you were the kind of guy that she wanted to meet, would it matter if you showed interest?</p>
<p><strong>Would she tell Brad Pitt to get lost if he told her he thought she was cute?</strong></p>
<p>You (apparently) should learn things to talk about because if you don&#8217;t have something to say that&#8217;s interesting to her, she&#8217;s going to walk away.</p>
<p>But why are you trying to pick up a woman who you have nothing in common with?</p>
<p>Why would you want to be with a woman who doesn&#8217;t have anything interesting to add to a conversation?</p>
<p>If you spent your time looking for women who you clicked with rather than desperately trying to convince anyone who&#8217;ll take you to hang out with you, would you need to learn things to talk about?</p>
<p><strong>And I could keep going here&#8230;</strong> </p>
<p>The one thing that all these tricks to pick up women have in common is that they&#8217;re designed to cover over your inner game issues.</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t have these inner game issues, you wouldn&#8217;t need to learn how to pick up women in the first place.</p>
<p>When you get your inner game sorted, you&#8217;ll be able to break and even contradict EVERY SINGLE ONE of these rules. </p>
<p>You wont have to learn anything to talk about because you wont be trying to bring women into your life that you don&#8217;t have anything in common with.</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t have to hide your intent because the women you desire will find you attractive, and if they don&#8217;t you can go and find ones that do.</p>
<p>You wont have to lean back to hide your interest in her because she&#8217;ll be interested in your too, and if she&#8217;s not, you can go and find women that are.</p>
<p><strong>Have you seen the Matrix? Do you remember this line?</strong></p>
<p>Neo: &#8220;Are you saying I&#8217;ll be able to dodge bullets?&#8221;<br />
Morpheus: &#8220;No, I&#8217;m saying that when you&#8217;re ready, you wont have to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pick up techniques are designed to teach you how to dodge bullets. Inner game shows you how to never have to dodge them again.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re just learning how to pick up women, you have to learn how to deal with the tests that they throw at you.</p>
<p>When you deal with your inner game, you pass their test without even registering that they happened.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re learning tricks for picking up women, you have to learn how to do &#8216;qualification&#8217;, when you deal with your inner game, qualification is  the way you live your life so you don&#8217;t even have to think about it.</p>
<p>Now, most guys that teach tricks for picking up women say that by learning these tricks, you&#8217;ll take care of your inner game issues. Really?</p>
<p>Learning outer game only takes care of the surface level of the issue, not the deep core of the issue. The deep issue is still there.</p>
<p><strong>Running out of things to say is an inner game issue.</strong></p>
<p>The only reason you run out of things to say is because you&#8217;re stuck inside your head trying to come up with something cool, funny, interesting to say so you can impress her&#8230;</p>
<p>..instead of just saying what you&#8217;re thinking and how you feel.</p>
<p>Outer game deals with this by giving you things to say that people might think are cool and interesting but the core of the issue not only remains, but is reinforced.</p>
<p>You not only still have the issue that you think the things you have to say aren&#8217;t interesting or cool or fun..</p>
<p>..but you&#8217;ve reinforced the thought pattern that you&#8217;re not good enough as you are to be attractive to women and have to hide yourself behind these pick up tricks.</p>
<p>Inner game deals with this by helping you shift your mindset from:</p>
<p>&#8220;How can I get that hot chick to like me so then I&#8217;ll feel good about myself?&#8221;</p>
<p>To:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;How can I feel good about myself so it doesn&#8217;t matter whether hot chicks will like me?&#8221;</strong>.</p>
<p>One thing worth considering, which pathway do you think is going to be more attractive to women in the long run?</p>
<p>Am I saying that you wont get more women through learning pickup techniques? Of course not. You definitely can. </p>
<p>But have  think about this for a second &#8211; what kind of women do you think you&#8217;ll end up with? What kind of standards will they live their life buy?</p>
<p>The kind of women who you&#8217;ll pickup are the kind of women settle for a guy who&#8217;s validation seeking, needy, scared of the world, and thinks that he&#8217;s not good enough without other people around him.</p>
<p>What kind of woman do you think that will be? Confident? Powerful? Independent? I doubt it&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>How about needy? Insecure? Clingy?</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably more likely&#8230;</p>
<p>What kind of issues do you think you&#8217;re going to face in the long run with her? Is she the kind of woman you pictured yourself with in the future?</p>
<p>Am I saying that all pickup tricks are a waste of time? Definitely not.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some really cool, fun, interesting stuff to play with.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that if you&#8217;re just learning it to cover over your inner game issues then you&#8217;re gong to spend the rest of your life learning how to dodge bullets when you could just be ignoring them all together.</p>
<p>What path are you going to choose?</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p>LoGun</p>
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		<title>9 Tips To STOP Getting Nervous Around GIRLS.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LoGun</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Find the CORE ISSUE which is causing you to get nervous around girls.</strong>

Most guys completely miss that, and try to fix their nervousness by treating their surface symptoms.

For example, they will see a girl they like, think of approaching her...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.attractioninstitute.org/inner-game/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/be-attractive-to-women-300x199.jpg" alt="getting nervous around women" title="getting nervous around women" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-3891" /><strong>1. Find the CORE ISSUE.</strong></p>
<p>Most guys completely miss that, and try to fix their nervousness by treating their surface symptoms.</p>
<p>For example, they will see a girl they like, think of approaching, take the first step, and feel nervousness.</p>
<p>So they will try to clamp down on the nervousness. Suppress it. Or they just try to ignore it.</p>
<p>Needless to say, it doesn&#8217;t usually work well. </p>
<p><strong>2. Go DEEPER.</strong></p>
<p>The most important thing here is to work out what you&#8217;re actually choosing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually something much deeper.</p>
<p>Now, according to most seduction community literature, you should be learning how to stop getting nervous around girls in conjunction with a myriad of other problems&#8230;</p>
<p>So, you should learn some body language tips so that you don&#8217;t &#8220;lean in&#8221; and don&#8217;t move your hands too much&#8230;</p>
<p>You should learn some tapping techniques to eradicate the chest tightness.</p>
<p>You should learn some openers to conceal the blank mind. And some proven DHV routines to stop your mindless mutterings.</p>
<p>And some Alpha male mindsets to stop supplicating.</p>
<p><strong>3. Is there a FASTER and EASIER way?</strong></p>
<p>What if there was a simple way to take care of ALL of those &#8211; at the same time? (yeah, and to stop getting nervous around girls, as well).</p>
<p>I know it sounds like a little to good to be true. But think about this&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>3. Your Nervousness Is Situational.</strong></p>
<p>Do you get nervous around your best mates? Do you get nervous watching TV with your family? Do you get a tightness in your chest in a movie cinema with your friends?</p>
<p>How often do you experience anxiety while eating at your favourite restaurant?</p>
<p>Yes, you probably do feel more comfortable in those &#8220;low pressure&#8221; places and that allows you to have a completely different experience of the world.</p>
<p>But why? And how?</p>
<p><strong>4. Getting Into STATE.</strong></p>
<p>So I want you to think back to one of your most enjoyable nights out, ever. It may have been a night out with the boys getting drunk and rowdy.</p>
<p>It may have been since you joined the seduction community community, picking up girls, it might have just been laughing with a beautiful woman.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter. All that matters is that it was a night that was fun and very fulfilling.</p>
<p>So now that you&#8217;re there, I want you to pay attention to one particular thing&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>5. Your FOCUS.</strong></p>
<p>Were you focusing on the external world &#8211; like what people are doing, what that mean, sand what that means about you?</p>
<p>Or were you focused on the internal world &#8211; on how you feel and what you desire to do?</p>
<p>And how did that focus allow you to act?</p>
<p>Did you check your actions, hiding the real you away because you were concerned about what other people think?</p>
<p>Or did you freely follow your desires &#8211; not because you thought everyone liked you, but simply because you were not thinking about what other people think?</p>
<p>And how did you feel because of the actions you take that come from the focus you have? Did you feel caged, trapped, scared and nervous?</p>
<p>Or did you feel happy, joyous, free, and alive?</p>
<p><strong>6. Were You NERVOUS??</strong></p>
<p>On those nights, did you need body language tips, openers, routines, DHV&#8217;s and body tapping to help you stop getting nervous?</p>
<p>Or was there just nothing to worry about?</p>
<p>Now, I want you to run through the same questions over again, but this time for a night out where you didn&#8217;t enjoy yourself.</p>
<p><strong>7. Imagine Your Worst Night Ever.</strong></p>
<p>Go on, actually do it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important that you give it a shot because it&#8217;s the one thing that&#8217;s going to help you stop getting nervous around girls. </p>
<p>So what do you think this all means? What&#8217;s the key element here?</p>
<p><strong>8. Internal Focus.</strong></p>
<p>This is where most seduction community &#8220;gurus&#8221; will say, &#8220;It can&#8217;t be that easy!&#8221; Well, I&#8217;m pretty sure it can&#8217;t be as hard as most of those gurus make it.</p>
<p>The structures, the routines, the openers, attraction switches, the DHV&#8217;s negs, more, more, more, more!!!</p>
<p>How come when you&#8217;re in state, you don&#8217;t need to learn any of this? Have you ever wondered why picking up is so much easier when you just go out to have fun?</p>
<p>Now, the fun part. This is where we dig deep.</p>
<p>Whilst it can help you stop getting nervous around girls, it does require that you understand what&#8217;s going on underneath.</p>
<p><strong>9. Fix Your Inner Game.</strong></p>
<p>You&#8217;re trying to get girls attracted to you for a reason. And, as a result you&#8217;re getting nervous around girls for a reason.</p>
<p>Once you understand what that reason is, everything will change. (Hint: it has something to do with inner game). </p>
<p>If you want to start that inner game journey now, then begin by learning why <a href="http://www.attractioninstitute.org/7-reasons-why-dating-advice-makes-you-worse-with-women" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.attractioninstitute.org%2F7-reasons-why-dating-advice-makes-you-worse-with-women','7+Reasons+Why+Dating+Advice+Can+Make+You+Worse+With+Women')">7 Reasons Why Dating Advice Can Make You Worse With Women</a>.</p>
<p><br ></p>
<p>LoGun</p>
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		<title>How To Pick Up Women &#8211; Made Easy.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is it that makes "picking up women" hard?

Is it really that hard go pick up women?  Or do we just make it out to ourselves that it is?

After the dating gurus promised to turn pickup into...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.attractioninstitute.org/inner-game/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pick-up-women-150x150.jpg" alt="pick-up-women" title="pick-up-women" width="150" height="150" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-3725" />What is it that makes picking up women hard?</p>
<p>Is it really that hard go pick up women?  Or do we just make it out to ourselves that it is?</p>
<p>After the dating gurus promised to turn pickup into a &#8220;simple science&#8221;, we saw an influx of product, after product, after product&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>&#8230;offering one &#8220;step-by-step seduction method&#8221; after another.</strong></p>
<p>What actually happened was the evolution of these &#8220;seduction methods&#8221; into a convoluted maze of steps, signs, PUA routines and techniques.</p>
<p>And all to be mentally masturbated over, as one PUA lair member slugged it out with countless &#8220;RAFCs&#8221; in &#8220;theory wars&#8221;.</p>
<p>How about we filter this whole pick-up science down into its simplest, most  concentrated concept, and work from there.</p>
<p><strong>What IS &#8220;picking up&#8221; a woman?</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s the phenomenon where you approach a woman, she likes what she sees/hears/experiences&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and you end up &#8220;hooking up&#8221; with that woman in some way (in a way of a one night stand, short-term fling, long-term relationship, marriage with kids etc).</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s physically involved in carrying out these steps of <em>picking up a woman</em>?</p>
<p>- Walking over to her and her friends<br />
- Opening the mouth and saying stuff<br />
- Hearing what she has to say<br />
- And communicating what we&#8217;d like to do.</p>
<p>Physical steps of <strong>picking up a woman</strong> seem simple enough, eh?</p>
<p><strong>So why can picking up women often be so hard?</strong></p>
<p>For starters, we let our minds get in the way with &#8220;what if&#8230;?&#8221;, and &#8220;I&#8217;m scared&#8221;, and &#8220;I&#8217;m not in state&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;all of which are excuses that irrelevant, in the greater scheme of things. But in that very moment they are OH SO REAL.</p>
<p>Try this on as an exercise&#8230;</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re out, picking up women, sarging, hanging out &#8230; (whatever is your thing) &#8230; when you see that woman who you want to approach&#8230;</p>
<p>You may feel a pang of anxiety at the thought of picking her up.</p>
<p><strong>That is OK, and it&#8217;s normal.</strong></p>
<p>Most guys will at this point try to lock down on that anxiety. They&#8217;ll try to suppress it, by either ignoring it, or blocking it out.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;ll talk to the woman, trying to &#8220;act normal&#8221;, while doing their best to keep a lid on their nerves. This usually results in what seduction community labels as &#8220;uncalibration&#8221; or, from a woman&#8217;s perspective&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;That guy is weird.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Instead of doing that, I suggest you try this: bring your awareness to your anxiety. Feel your nerves. BE with your nerves. What do your nerves feel like? Where in your body do you feel your nerves?</p>
<p>Become curious about your experience.</p>
<p>Do it more than once. Make it a habit. Whenever you&#8217;re in a situation which &#8217;causes&#8217; you nerves &#8211; rather than trying to suppress them, feel INTO them.</p>
<p>What you should find is that once you develop your relationship with your nerves, you&#8217;ll be able to act IN SPITE of them, rather than being dominated by them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if you&#8217;re a bit disappointed I didn&#8217;t just give you a &#8220;magic pill&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>I&#8217;m sure by now you realise that those don&#8217;t exist.</strong></p>
<p>But by putting in a little bit of effort you&#8217;ll be able to experience profound improvements in your life&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;in your ability to be the master of your emotions (rather than a slave to them), AND, of course, your ability to pick up women.</p>
<p>Let me know how you go with this exercise.</p>
<p><br ></p>
<p>Jonathon</p>
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		<title>All PUAs Are Liars.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you're like me when you decided to 'get better with women', you've probably first read 'The Game'.

And then jumped online to learn a tonne of dating advice. 

Maybe you even purchased a DVD program which taught you "fundamentals" of attraction. Or two.

So why is it that those who are on the "PUA path" still aren't seeing...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.attractioninstitute.org/inner-game/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/all-puas-are-liars-265x300.jpg" alt="all-puas-are-liars" title="all-puas-are-liars" width="265" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-3682" />If you&#8217;re like me then you probably decided to &#8216;get better with women&#8217; after you&#8217;ve read &#8216;The Game&#8217;.</p>
<p>And then jumped online to learn a tonne of dating advice. </p>
<p>Maybe you even purchased a DVD program which taught you &#8220;fundamentals&#8221; of attraction. Or two?</p>
<p>You were lured by the idea of becoming a &#8220;pickup artist&#8221;. C&#8217;mon admit it, I was too.</p>
<p>But why is it that so many guys who embark on the &#8220;PUA path&#8221; never see the success with women that they thought they would?</p>
<p><strong>Let me offer you a perspective.</strong></p>
<p>The reason we were shit with women at some stage in our life is because we did things that we thought would get women to like us. </p>
<p>We supplicated, we put up with behaviour in women which we would not have tolerated in men, we bought presents for women out of need, rather than sincerity.</p>
<p><strong>We were not being TRULY ourselves.</strong></p>
<p>Instead, we moulded into whatever shape we thought would get us the end result &#8211; the girl.</p>
<p>That is the syndrome of being &#8211; as my girlfriend put it the other day &#8211; a walking doormat. Or, in seduction community terms, a &#8216;nice guy&#8217;. </p>
<p>Is it any wonder that the women rejected those spineless versions of ourselves which we served up to them?</p>
<p><strong>Along came the seduction community.</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t be needy, don&#8217;t supplicate, act indifferent &#8211; until she qualifies herself to you, be high-value, don&#8217;t talk about Warcraft, lean back, here&#8217;s a routine you can use as an opener.&#8221;</p>
<p>Check.</p>
<p>So, the words that the PUAs are saying to women have come a long way from the bad old days of&#8230;</p>
<p><strong> &#8220;Can I buy you a drink?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>And PUAs have even gone as far as shifting the mindsets behind their words. &#8220;Don&#8217;t be attached to the outcome, give value&#8221;, they say.</p>
<p>But are those shifts are as profound as they seem? Let&#8217;s investigate.</p>
<p>Why are PUAs being &#8220;non-needy&#8221;, &#8220;non-supplicating&#8221;, &#8220;non-attached to the outcome&#8221;? Is it not to create attraction? Which means, they&#8217;re still doing their tricks just so that&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>..women would like them!</strong></p>
<p>Is it progress? Or is it just more of marching on the spot, albeit in a different uniform?</p>
<p>Are PUAs being 100% honest with the women they talk to?</p>
<p>When was the last time a PUA walked up to a woman and said:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is kinda random, but I thought you&#8217;re really cute and I&#8217;ll feel really fulfilled after I spend a night with you, so let me demonstrate some qualities of a non-needy guy, ready?&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems that as we embarked on this journey of &#8220;becoming better with women&#8221; we have proceeded to learn how to pick up women, without paying much attention to WHY we&#8217;re doing it.</p>
<p>And in doing so, we forgot to seek advice which helps us become truly fulfilled &#8211; and then approach a woman with a cup that is full.</p>
<p>Instead, a trap that a lot of us have fallen into many times &#8211; myself included &#8211; is that of &#8220;I want to learn how to pick up women &#8211; because that will make me feel fulfilled&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>Is that REAL fulfillment?</strong></p>
<p>Is that real NON-NEEDY, ALPHA behaviour?</p>
<p>Just on that note, I was sitting in traffic the other day, and a guy pulled up alongside on a Harley motorcycle. </p>
<p>One look at him revealed that underneath the worn leathers, the thin helmet and the barking exhaust of his admittedly cool wheels, he was still a dork.</p>
<p>Some Harley salesman tapped into his pain and sold him on the idea that the motorcycle was going to make up for the shortcomings he felt on the inside.</p>
<p><strong>It didn&#8217;t work.</strong></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let some dating guru sell you on the idea that once you learn how to be a PUA, you&#8217;ll be any less of a dork than you were when you were being a walking doormat.</p>
<p><br ></p>
<p>Steven</p>
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		<title>2010 Seduction Community Predictions.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It will be amusing to come back here in one years' time and see how many of these seduction community predictions I got wrong.

So, let's begin ;)

Seduction Community Prediction #1: People Will Stop Using The Term "Seduction...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.attractioninstitute.org/inner-game/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/386754_small-199x300.jpg" alt="seduction community" title="seduction community" width="199" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-3421" />It will be amusing to come back here in one years&#8217; time and see how many of these seduction community predictions I got wrong.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s begin ;)</p>
<p><strong>Seduction Community Prediction #1: People Will Stop Using The Term &#8220;Seduction Community&#8221;.</strong></p>
<p>At the moment, the climate on a lot of seduction community forums is that of:</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re here for self-development, now just learning how to pick up women&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thing is, for many guys this mindset is still just a veiled attempt at being &#8220;unattached to the outcome&#8221; when approaching women.</p>
<p>But as time goes on, I feel that genuine interest in self development will awaken in many more guy&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and picking up women will increasingly be seen as a by-product of fulfilled life &#8211; rather than its end goal.</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p><strong>Prediction #2: PUAs &#038; Mystery Method Will Continue To Exist.</strong></p>
<p>Every day a few hundred men get frustrated at their lack of success with women &#8211; to the point where they decide to do something about it.</p>
<p>Inevitably, they sit down in front of their computer, swallow their pride, and type into Google something like, &#8220;how to pick up women&#8221; or &#8220;how to approach women&#8221; or &#8220;dating tips&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>0.031 seconds later they have the &#8220;answers&#8221; at their fingertips&#8230;</p>
<p>And they begin reading. Soaking up dating theory, tips, routines, openers and techniques like a sponge.</p>
<p>Whilst for most guys having this knowledge feels like progress (&#8220;so this is why women see me just as a friend!!&#8221;)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;It takes some time to realise that intellectually knowing the answers &#8211; having the answers &#8211; leads merely to being a very good imitator of the real deal.</p>
<p>To actually BECOME the real deal requires dealing with one&#8217;s true organic experience. And that is a process of removing layers of knowledge, rather than piling more on.</p>
<p>So, Mystery Method will continue to act as a necessary step in the lives of many men&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; To give them first hand experience of what DOESN&#8217;T offer them all the success they&#8217;re looking for &#8211; thereby motivating them to go out and look deeper for stuff that does.</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p><strong>Prediction #3: Many More Dating Gurus Will Emerge&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Internet has made it possible for anyone with $200 to make a decent-looking website, slap together some content, and declare themselves a &#8220;guru&#8221;.</p>
<p>Whilst not many of those gurus will ever actually help anyone, and even fewer will make their website into a profitable business, many will continue to spring up &#8230; </p>
<p><br \></p>
<p><strong>Prediction #4: And Many Existing Dating Gurus Will Vanish.</strong></p>
<p>This increased competition will separate the wheat from the chaff.</p>
<p>And many dating gurus who are currently in the business of just repackaging the same old stuff in an attempt to make a quick buck will vanish from the sphere of visibility&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; while the power of social media will help spread the word about those who truly are producing foundation-changing stuff, bring them to the spotlight.</p>
<p>And they will do amazing things.</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p><strong>Prediction #5: I will not get accepted into the Sydney Lair.</strong></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean I won&#8217;t stop trying :)</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p><strong>Prediction #6: We Will Fail&#8230; </strong></p>
<p>Every one of us will &#8211; at least once &#8211; end up standing next to a beautiful woman and racking our head for something to say.</p>
<p>It may happen in a line waiting for coffee, or on a bus, or waiting for the little man to go green&#8230;</p>
<p>But it will happen. And as soon as she is gone we will be kicking ourselves for not saying anything at all.</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p><strong>Prediction #7: And We Will Succeed.</strong></p>
<p>Every one of us will strike up a conversation with a woman without worrying about what &#8220;the right thing&#8221; to say to her is, or what she is thinking&#8230;</p>
<p>And it will be a conversation of purity, freedom of expression and joy.</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p><strong>Prediction #8: LoGun will become louder.</strong></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean we won&#8217;t try to silence him ;)</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p>Steven</p>
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		<title>The Ugly Truth About SARGING.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LoGun</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I'm sure it seemed like the answer to your dreams:

A community full of guys who could teach you how to attract the women you wanted.

And not only that, but also how to get the happiness you wanted.

Those HB9's and HB10's who so elusively strut around the club. Finally, you'd...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.attractioninstitute.org/inner-game/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sleazydad250109-300x295.jpg" alt="sarging and seduction community" title="sarging and seduction community" width="300" height="295" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-3276" />I&#8217;m sure it seemed like the answer to your dreams:</p>
<p>A community full of guys who could teach you how to attract the women you wanted.</p>
<p>And not only that, but also how to get the happiness you wanted.</p>
<p>Those HB9&#8217;s and HB10&#8217;s who so elusively strut around the club. Finally, you&#8217;d have the answers which would mean they&#8217;re no longer out of your league.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s a few things those seduction community  gurus didn&#8217;t tell you&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>I&#8217;m not surprised, though.</strong></p>
<p>If they did, there&#8217;s no reason you&#8217;d stick around on their mailing lists, lapping up their latest must-have DVD series and killer audio books&#8230;</p>
<p>(I just went through one &#8216;guru&#8217;s&#8217; product list and there was nearly 15 items on it. That&#8217;s a whole bunch of products he has to convince you that you need to support his rockstar lifestyle.)</p>
<p>So what are these things which they don&#8217;t want you to know?</p>
<p><strong>Well, how about this one for starters:</strong></p>
<p>Not only is sarging trapping you in the merry-go-round of needing product after product, but it&#8217;s also the number reason why you&#8217;re not getting those results you so desperately want.</p>
<p>Sound strange? Well, think about it like this:</p>
<p>What is &#8220;sarging&#8221;? It&#8217;s learning how to go out and pick up women, right?</p>
<p>Therefore, whether or not you like to mention it, your success criteria for a night out sarging is:</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;How many women do I pick up?&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Great. Now I&#8217;m sure that you guys all know the massive negative effects that neediness has on any interaction.</p>
<p>So consider this: how are you supposed to stay non-needy when needing a woman to feel attracted to you to meet your success criteria?</p>
<p>How are you supposed to avoid the clingy-ness and desperation that comes from needing her to feel attracted to you &#8211; when the only thing you&#8217;ve gone out for is to make a woman feel attracted to you?</p>
<p>Defining the end result of seduction as your success criteria is the very thing that&#8217;s preventing you from actually seducing her.</p>
<p><strong>Sarging is making you worse with women.</strong></p>
<p>And do you wonder why you need to learn all those techniques and tactics?</p>
<p>How are you supposed to appear non-needy with that purpose without learning these &#8216;latest seduction secrets and tactics&#8217;? Easy! </p>
<p>Simply fill your head with all the actions, words and tactics you&#8217;d use if you were not needy and relying on her to finally succeed at life .</p>
<p>They have been &#8220;reverse-engineered&#8221; for you by &#8220;dating gurus&#8221; and sold as part of a DVD program. Nice.</p>
<p>Do you wonder why you need to constantly refer back to community forums so that latest seduction guru can tell you the elusive &#8216;next step&#8217;?</p>
<p>Do you wonder why you MUST HAVE that just released DVD series so you know how to apply kino whilst running shop assistant game on Thursdays, whilst executing the &#8220;moonwalk up my arse opener&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>&#8230;whilst wearing your DHV jeans?</strong></p>
<p>Do you wonder why you&#8217;re trapped in that endless cycle of trying, failing, and then trying to get that one final piece of information that&#8217;s going to get you over the hump?</p>
<p>Because the one thing that the seduction community promised it was the answer to, is actually what it maintains.</p>
<p>The underlying issues that was preventing you from getting success with women before you found the seduction community is the one thing that the seduction community keeps on reinforcing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s reinforcing that meeting women is a complicated and tricky process that requires massive amounts of knowledge and huge amounts of experience in order to get the results you want.</p>
<p><strong>And It does!</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;When you&#8217;re trying to hide your desperate sense of neediness under layers of alpha behaviour, mindsets and routines.</p>
<p>But what if there was a better way.</p>
<p>What if, instead of clinging to women like they were your last chance at happiness and desperately trying to drag a woman into your seductive web, your took a different approach?</p>
<p>What if, you started finding your happiness away from her?</p>
<p>What if you derived your personal sense of satisfaction and fulfillment from something other than how hot your mates thought your girlfriend was?</p>
<p>What if you stood on your feet, got in touch with what you believe in, why you believe in it, and pursued it passionately?</p>
<p>Do you think people, especially powerful, confident women, would want to spend time with you?</p>
<p>Do you think you&#8217;d have to spend so much time trying to convince them to be part of your life?</p>
<p>And, most importantly, do you think you&#8217;d need to desperately try and convince them to be part of your world whilst all the time, disguising your debilitating sense of loneliness, neediness, and inadequacy?</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t have this underlying neediness, how many routines and structures would you have to learn to try and hide it?</p>
<p>If you were the kind of guy people wanted to be around, how much time would you have to devote to developing structures to try and convey that to people?</p>
<p>And how long do you think it would take to develop them?</p>
<p>If you lived the kind of life that people wanted to be part of, how much time would you have to devote to getting people to be part of it?</p>
<p><strong>Am I saying that you&#8217;ll be able to get every girl?</strong></p>
<p>Of course not.</p>
<p>But the ones you will get will love you for who you are. And you wont be condemning yourself to having to maintain your thin facade every time you hang out together.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not saying that the community can&#8217;t help you get women. It can, and has for a lot of guys! But what kind of women do they attract?</p>
<p>Well, if the typical guy who&#8217;s getting success through the community is the kind of guy who&#8217;s learned to hide his neediness and loneliness for long enough to trick her into sleeping with him, what kind of women would he get?</p>
<p>What kind of woman do you think would overlook his lies for long enough to give herself to him?</p>
<p>Do you think she&#8217;d be a powerful, strong woman who had high self esteem and lived an exciting life? Or do you think she&#8217;d be lonely, unsure, and self-conscious, not believing that she was worth any better?</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>What kind of women do you want to attract into your life?</p>
<p>And how easy and quick do you want to make that process?</p>
<p><br \></p>
<p>LoGun</p>
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		<title>Why &#8220;Sarging&#8221; Is Not Helping You Attract Women</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LoGun</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For starters, I’ve never liked the word ‘sarging’.

It conjures up all these images of creepy, seedy, old men trying to hypnotise women into GO DOWN ON ME INNER GAME PENIS EXTENSION (did that work?) sleeping with them.

A lot of guys use the word to feel part of the group so they can become better at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.attractioninstitute.org/inner-game/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/istock_000007447130xsmall-300x200.jpg" alt="attract women" title="attract women" width="300" height="200" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1705" />For starters, I’ve never liked the word ‘sarging’.<br />
<br />
It conjures up all these images of creepy, seedy, old men trying to hypnotise women into GO DOWN ON ME INNER GAME PENIS EXTENSION (did that work?) sleeping with them.<br />
<br />
A lot of guys use the word to feel part of the group so they can become better at attracting women, but what they don’t realise is they’re actually holding themselves back!<br />
<br />
Let me show you how exactly, and how you can help yourself move forward &#8211; immediately.<br />
<br />
To show you just what’s going on, I want you to think up all the associations you have with the word ‘sarging’.<br />
<br />
Let’s start a list:<br />
<br />
- Picking up<br />
- Seducing<br />
- Approaching<br />
- Wing Man<br />
- Opener<br />
- Hook Point<br />
- Transition<br />
- Isolation<br />
- Kino<br />
- Shit test<br />
- Closing<br />
- Analyse<br />
- Technique<br />
<br />
Shall we stop there?<br />
<br />
‘Sarging’ has so many unconscious associations with it that it does my head in. But how about some things you don’t associate with it:<br />
<br />
- Fun<br />
- Playfullness<br />
- Being in the moment<br />
- Enjoyment<br />
- Doing what I want<br />
<br />
Now, to show you exactly what’s going on, have a look back over those lists and ask yourself ‘Which list of things best describes my night when I’ve had the most success with women?’<br />
<br />
Something to think about, huh?<br />
<br />
When you go out sarging, what you’re actually doing is putting yourself in a position to decrease your success with women. You’re actively holding yourself back from getting what you want.<br />
<br />
It’s a point worth repeating: you’re holding yourself back.<br />
<br ><br />
LoGun</p>
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